"Do not examine, but believe!" Celsus took pains to make himself acquainted with the beliefs of his Christian contemporaries, and he is unquestionably conscious of his knowledge of Christianity. 64). Much better
Christianity makes a point of calling to the faith "ignorant,
rid of "institutions established from the beginning in the various
The objections of Celsus to the character of Christ being thus dismissed, and they are really unworthy even of the scanty space here bestowed upon them, it is plain that all the facts admitted by him are so much to be added to the scale of evidence. not pay any attention to their fathers and school-teachers but must
55); and remarks on the disbelief invariably given to such accounts as those of the resurrection of Zamolxis, Pythagoras, Orpheus, Protesilaus, Hercules, and Theseus. after resurrection by "a hysterical female" and by others "who either
Christians are not consistent in their respect of the soul and of
The first point which Celsus brings forward, in his desire to throw discredit upon Christianity, is, that the Christians entered into secret associations with each other contrary to law, saying, that "of associations some are public, and that these are in accordance with the laws; others, again, secret, and maintained in violation of the laws." height: 400, But the most remarkable portions of his attack are those directed against the general character of Christianity. Jesus, having learned some miraculous powers when he was in Egypts
Subscription Version of Text With translation, more background info & notes. Celsus (1). and men; by contrast, the Christians' God does not help his followers. Although the origins of Christianity are in Judaism, and even for a time Christianity abided under the banner of Judaism as a “sect” , the two are quite distinct and to the untrained observer the two “great religions” have little in common. 28, sqq. be called by the name of Zeus, which is current among the Greeks, or by
Many Jewish People hold great objections to Yeshua as Messiah. anything (therefore, he cannot be jealous), why do Christians teach to
Celsus' books, along with those of Porphry and others, were condemned by order of Valentinian III and Theodosious in 448CE. Celsus (1). public feasts and idol offerings? 86). Baur says that “in acuteness, in dialectical aptitude, in many-sided cultivation, at once philosophic and general, Celsus stands behind no opponent of Christianity.” Admitting that this panegyric is not groundless, we must add, that in vital insight Celsus was deficient. obey them. accept to worship God alone. “What evil is it,” he asks, “to be learned and to have cultivated the intellect with the best pursuits, to be and to appear wise? kicked out of the house by the husband, a carpenter. 22). life, they should pay honor to "those beings who control the affairs of
(Cf. Information on Celsus. from a lenghtened slumber"), why did he not send the Holy Spirit to
They also claim that their ancestral
Celsus wrote his work True Discourse (or, True Reason) as a polemic against the Christians in approximately 178 CE.Celsus divided the work into two sections, the one in which objections are put in the mouth of a Jewish interlocutor and the other in which Celsus speaks as the pagan philosopher that he is. Zürich, 1873). They don't speak in front of these teachers because "they do
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places". He complains vehemently of them as discouraging learning, wisdom, and thought; as rejecting the authority of reason; as being the patrons of sinners, whereas to the heathen mysteries only "the holy and virtuous" were invited. He begins with a dialogue between a Jew and a Christian, in which the Jew sets forth his objections to Christianity. Renan, Marc-Aurèle; Pelagaud, Étude sur Celse (Lyons, 1828); Aubé, Histoire des Persécutions (Paris, 1878); Lightfoot, Apost. The Virginal Conception of Jesus. dreamt in a certain state of mind and through wishful thinking had a
Celsus is looking at Christianity from a Jewish perspective and it's pretty clear that he does not have a high approval rating on Christianity. know already all that was going on on earth? Assuming that God decided to rescue humanity from evil (and
derive from the Jews, but "have revolted from the Jews". of
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In the list of objections to Christianity below, explain how you would respond to the claim/question. Christians must choose: either they decide not to render service
Celsus accuses the Christians of lawlessness, and of keeping wholly to themselves, and not caring for those outside. Celsus was a Greek writer in the second century who criticized Christianity as a threat to the stable communities and worldview that the "pagan" religious and social system sought to uphold. 16); and with which he accepts the stories of Linus and Musaeus, though afterwards he rejects those of Perseus and Amphion (i. In the first book of Celsus from which Origen took his extracts, a Jew, introduced by Celsus, addresses Jesus; in the second book, the Jew addresses his Jewish coreligionists who have embraced Christianity; and in the remaining six books Celsus speaks in his own person. An A-Z of Unanswered Objections to Christianity: Q. The virginal birth of Jesus was invented. Christians make
customs
unintelligent, uninstructed, or foolish persons"; on the other hand, it
1. A hypocrite is an actor, a person who pretends to be something she isn't. 84), and even that they have knowledge of God. 513 ff. and retain their ancestral customs; they do not seek to subvert and get
CELSUS (178ECE) Wrote"On the True Doctrine, known primarily from the polemical book, "Contra Celsum," written br Origen of Alexandria in response the Celsus's questions. He goes about the "Address of the Jew" in part 1 questioning everything that the Lord Jesus claims about Himself, then in part 2 admonishing those who have converted from Judaism to Christianity. After these points Celsus quotes some objections against the doctrine of Jesus, made by a very few individuals who are considered Christians, not of the more intelligent, as he supposes, but of the more ignorant class, and asserts that "the following are the rules laid down by them. who, according to Ovid, said that "animals share with us the privilege
this life". Origen does not deny the fact, but maintains that it is a proof of the importance of that on which they debated, and further that they all set forth Jesus alone as the means of salvation (vi. Christians engage in secret associations with each other. But especially valuable is Prof. Theodor Keim’s monograph (Celsus’s Wahres Wort. Your responses are annonymous, so please do not worry whether you answer the question correctly on not. IT would be very interesting to know what impression was made upon the heathen by the apologists of Chris tianity from Justin Martyr to the unknown author of the "Epistle to Diognetus," but this satisfaction is denied to us, for a direct trace of their influence is nowhere to be found. For
He had strong faith in reason. Info about Subscription Site. What obstacle are these things to the knowledge of God? The intellectual arguments against Christianity include the suppositions that it is a faith of violence, corruption, superstition, polytheism, bigotry, pontification, and sectarianism. Christianity: It's not our fault your religion can not get its shit together. would be the purpose of such a descent on the part of God? case they are also God's creatures, and "we must believe in them,
COMMON OBJECTIONS. There are cases, indeed, in which he shews himself more acute. His logic is that if there is evil in the world, and the world is itself God’s creation, then God must have created evil. To him Christianity is an “exitiabilis superstitio”; he gives credence to every story against it on which he can lay his hands; he dwells with coarse jocularity on the Jewish tradition of Panthera and the Virgin Mary (i. They are all found in Contra Celsus by Origen, as no original works by Celsus are extant. Christians do not proceed by means of reason; they rather repeat
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country", and to help the king with all possible strength. Couldn't he fix allegedly wrong things directly? The form of Celsus’s work, the ἀληθὴς λόγος, is well known. that, e.g., which is in use among the Indians or Egyptians". The True Word has been lost to history, but its … ); he unearths a certain Diagramma, a figure symbolizing the world, and consisting of a circle called Leviathan enclosing ten other circles, apparently used in the rites of some sect more or less approximating to the Christians (vi. But when
However, throughout the centuries, some Jewish People chose to believe in His Messiahship, and today, Jews are coming to … Christians are not able to explain "at least of what nature these
Christians are not really monotheists. good". The maintenance of social order depends on paying honours to God
So, the story is fabricated. they should leave father and schoolmasters. to them according to the laws, and pray to them that they may be
He makes a great point of the opposition between the morality of the Old and New Testaments, in respect of the earthly success which is the crowning happiness of the former, and so strongly reprobated by the latter. are totally corrupted". This was the standard pattern of many… Read More Treating of the flight of Jesus into Egypt, and afterwards (as he alleges) before the betrayal, he asks, “Had God need to fly from His enemies? The Annunciation by Fra Angelico. If God is the God of all, and if by being God he does not need
This first assault on Christianity was vicious, powerful and, like Gibbon, immensely readable. Finally, he maintains that no revelation of the Supreme Being can be made; but that, if it could be made, it must be of universal and compelling efficacy; that, however, all that is possible is revelation by an angel or demon, and even that he denies to Judaism or Christianity. Of the personal history of this, the first great polemical adversary of Christianity, we know nothing with certainty; and even Origen, from whom the whole of our knowledge of Celsus is derived, had received the work of Celsus, entitled ἀληθὴς λόγος, or the True Discourse, without any hint of the history or date of its author. Christianity was actually born in Jerusalem (in modern-day Israel.) Do not they rather lead and assist to the attainment of truth?” Nor had that similarity between the human and the animal frame, which the natural science of our own day insists upon, escaped his notice. In reality Jesus was
Yet, he has no suspicion of the distinction between the universally accepted teachings of the "great Church" of the Christians and the doctrines peculiar to Ophites, Marcionites , and other heretical sects . (iv. Robert L. Wilken, The Christians as the Romans Saw Them. The following is an excerpt from Nixey’s chapter ‘Wisdom is Foolishness’: C elsus did not soften his attack either. i. pp. ), Source: Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature. Or they can marry,
In reality they worship
Early Renaissance fresco. "They cannot have it both ways: either they are a new sect with no relation to Judaism, or they are a cousin of the Jewish faith, in which case they are not entitled to take a pick-and-mix approach to its doctrines. either pretend that they do not, or deny them". Please feel free to answer as many or as few as you would like. This
Trinity, no trinity. The Jewish objections to Christianity are numerable. It would be hard, again, to cavil at his ideas of the Divine Nature; he speaks of men “burning with the love of it” (i. channel: "iconday" In the preface Celsus forecasts the general plan of his attack by describing in the first place the general character of Christianity and then proceeding to accuse both Christian and Jew of "separatism", that is to say, of arrogating to themselves a superior wisdom, while in reality their ideas concerning the origin of the universe, etc., are common to all peoples and to the wise men of antiquity. The Jews observe a mode of worship derived from their fathers,
the gods, and in this case they should not marry nor have children, and
Celsus accuses the Christians of lawlessness, and of keeping wholly to themselves, and not caring for those outside. Celsus and Democritus. He wrote a comprehensive attack on Christianity entitled The True Word (or the True Discourse (Λόγος Ἀληθής)), which today survives only in the work of the writer Origen called Contra Celsum.2 Many writers say that Celsus was an Epicurean, but Jesus the Son of God, and that he was sent only to the Jews. In one of the most unpleasing passages of his work, he compares Jews and Christians to a set of worms or frogs squabbling in the mud, and saying, “God is, and we are next to Him, and it is for our sake that the whole world is made; and God will come and take us up to heaven, except those who are bad, whom He will burn with fire.”, The work of Origen against him is, as a whole, of much controversial merit and philosophical breadth. Celsus suggests that he did so in a whimsical way, like Jupiter
Does fear belong to God?”. 1440-45. Jesus was a man/prophet inspired by god, Jesus was a man chosen by god. Jesus was no God because he received no assistance from the
Celsus’s charge touches on the so-called problem of evil. many and then send these many into the whole world? Christianity (and Judaism) is barbarous in origin. But "it makes no difference whether the God who is over all
Here are some of the objections that Celsus raised against Christianity in the late second century (c.180). He complains vehemently of them as discouraging learning, wisdom, and thought; as rejecting the authority of reason; as being the patrons of sinners, whereas to the heathen mysteries only “the holy and virtuous” were invited. propitious". 30,000 sects. But, on the whole, there are few works of the ancient Fathers which can be read with more pleasure and profit. According to Origen, Celsus was an Epicurean. Origen, indeed, like Celsus, is not free from the superstitions of his time; thus he defends the star whose appearance is told in the second chapter of St. Matthew by a reference to comets, which, he remarks, portend future events, such as wars and pestilences. rejects those who are instructed, wise or prudent. Apparently
We must be on our guard at once against disparaging it too much, and against thinking too highly of its ability. $5 for trial, $30 a year for individuals ($15 students). He has no idea of regarding Christianity from the inside, and of inquiring into the reason of its influence; he uses jest for argument, and interprets everything in a bad sense. More than a passing comment or a veiled allusion; it was a collection of objections contra Christianity. Fath. He lived in the region of Adrian in the Second Century AD. width: "100%", In addition, they
Printable Version of Text plus translation and notes Such objections are historically misinformed. However, a good God would not have created an evil which would “threaten to destroy his own offspring.”. Celsus the Platonist (William Turner) Gerard Watson, "Celsus and the Philosophical Opposition to Christianity," Irish Theological Quarterly 58.3 (1992): 165-179. Christians were rather reluctant to be involved in worldly affairs. to events narrated in the gospels. Jesus was seen
If so, why coming down? F. C. Baur has written an elaborate critique on Celsus in his work on Christendom and the Christian Church in the First Three Centuries (Tübingen, 1853). What proof do we have of the resurrection? They won't
Note of the Ed. must "discharge the duties of life". Both Baur and Kelm rate Celsus too highly; but the general tendency of Christian writers has naturally been to underrate him. From such instances it is evident that Celsus wholly misapprehended the force of the doctrine that he was attacking. born out of an adulterous relation, because of which her mother was
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new Twitch.Embed("twitch-embed", { Celsus admits that Christianity and Judaism were different as they rejected core Jewish customs and laws on circumcision, diet, festivals and keeping the Sabbath. Though Christianity spread rapidly in the West during the first few centuries A.D., it first spread through much of the middle east and “Asia Minor” (modern-day Turkey), as well as to Ethiopia and other parts of North Africa. His work as a whole has been lost, but when the third century theologian Origen sought to answer Celsus' charges in a work appropriately called Against Celsus , he preserved most of Celsus' criticisms. The moral system of Christianity is nothing new. "awaking
He dwells on the numerous sects of Christians, all of whom said, “Crede, si salvus fieri velis,” and asks how one is to judge between so many? prefer "sinners over others". therefore disappear soon from the face of the earth. But he had not any partiality for Judaism. animal food (Celsus refers here to the vegetarianism of Pythagoras,
Celsus (1). "what are the three most common objections that you have against Christianity (eg., God, Jesus, or the Bible) and why"? "to an extravagant degree this man who appeared recently". Origen, indeed, who to all appearance is a very fair antagonist, speaks of it with contempt. Not so the Christians. there is no harm in offering to them), or they are demons. least part of these gatherings consists in "love-feasts". and, "Your faith will save you!". Initially, Celsus seems to have been overlooked by Christians but a century later Origen felt it was prudent to respond to the work in his Against Celsus (ca. themselves ridicolous when they say that the Spirit descended only on
(1 Peter 3:15) The herdsmen and shepherds that created Judaism decided that
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