(718) 445-8181. Rabbis are usually hired to lead High Holiday services. “The meats all come prepackaged,” says Hazdan. (Regarding Rabbi Hasden's hashgacha, see this related question).I do not know whether either of those rabbis provide supervision with kashrus standards that are widely considered acceptable. సదరౠà°à°¿à°²à°¾à°à°¿à°¨à± à°
à°¨à±à°¦à°¿ à°à°µà± మాà°à°¸à° à°¨à±à°à°¡à°¿ రాబడినది. However, it is does not become all of a sudden mutar to spread rumors about his kosher certification which almost certainly jeopardizes his parnasah. Young people preparing for their Bar and Bat Mitzvahs have had to rely on audio tapes and the assistance of local family members. https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/5435/any-information-about-rabbi-barnett-hasdens-ner-tamid-k-hechsher/5490#5490. Just to let you all know, I did call Rav Reuven Feinstein about this question and was told that although Rabbi Hasdan does daven in their yeshivah, he was not in the business of certifying the validty of kashrus agencies. Syd Halter describes the first Orthodox synagogue and how services changed to a more egalitarian style once they moved to the new shul in the 1960s and later, when their last full-time rabbi, Daniel Siegel left in 1974. ), @BruceJames Come on, man, just because I don't think the OU has a monopoly on deciding Jewish law doesn't mean I think anyone who calls himself a rabbi is knowledgeable. Yoplait yogurt carries KD (Kosher Dairy) Certification, certified by Rabbi Barnett Hasden. He also informed me that Rav Reuven eats all of Amy's pareve products, but ONLY due to the fact that Rav Reuven is strict on Halav Yisrael and NOT because the cheese products are not kosher. But Staten Island rabbi Dov Hazdan has ⦠You should ask your LOR whom you can rely on. I believe he is more lenient with the definition of kosher cheese than what passes these days. Hebrew school was taught by Barry Rosenberg, Judy Rosenberg and Penny Grief in the 1980s. A. Think about this. Leon was born in Chattanooga to the late Flora and Max Hasden, and was the younger brother of Rabbi Barnett Hasden ⦠Leon Coleman Hasden, age 78, devoted father and husband, played his last hand at home surrounded by family on Sunday, July 26th, 2015. Distance yourself from and/or "How does this hechsher's standards differ from those of more widely-known hechshers? The Long Island advance. Yes, Amyâs Kosher certification is from Rabbi Barnett Hasden of Ner Tamid K in Staten Island, NY. The last full-time rabbi in Thunder Bay was Rabbi Daniel Siegel, who lived in the community with his wife Chana. I'm really not sure what to make of the first one (I'm trying to be Melamed Zchus, but if someone else can actually state a justification that would be great), but the second one isn't a Kosher issue per se, it is more a problematic behavior on the part of the certifier. à°
à°¨à°à°¾! 2-E, Flushing, NY 11354. It is, in general, not considered as reliable as the OU/OK/CRC, but the best thing to do would be to ask your LOR (Local Orthodox Rabbi). We know gelatin matters to a lot of our vegetarian fans out there, and we do offer a few products that are gelatin free: Kids Cup, 32oz Lg Size, and ⦠The politics and arguments over kashrus certification are almost never le-shem shamayim. In 1967, Alex Devon, Saul Laskin and Rabbi Barnett Hasden prepared a brief articulating their opposition, which was submitted to the Committee on Religious Education in the Public Schools. This is like Rash"i's comment on the parashah of the spies, i.e. Barnett Rabbi Hasden, age 85, Staten Island, NY 10309 View Full Report. So if it's just the donuts and lets assume any ovens for the donuts are specialized, then there shouldn't be much of an issue. If you want to post a follow-up question, please do so. It asks for information that could be useful. We know gelatin matters to a lot of our vegetarian fans out there, and we do offer a few products that are gelatin free: Kids Cup, 32oz Lg Size, and Yoplait Smooth Strawberry, Blueberry, and Horchata. I converted your answer into a comment because it doesn't really answer the question. @BruceJames There are no "objective best practices". He was raised in New York and was educated at the Reconstructionist Rabbincal College in Philadelphia. Other names that Dov uses includes Dov Rabbi Hazdon, Barnett Hasden, Hazdan Rabbi, Barnett Hazdan and Dov Hazdon. When is a restaurant that serves bacon considered kosher? they still have not plumbed the awful horrors of mahloqeth...", “Therefore, despise mahloqeth and flee it. Anyone can write it on their products. Does anyone here know anything about the reliability of "Rabbi Barnett Hasden of Ner Tamid K in Staten Island, NY"? of forbearance, which is genuine gevurah and victory. And you should cut it out with your silly "scary stories". I have spoken with Rabbi Barnett Hasdan myself and his response was that everything is under his strict kosher supervision. Amy's cooks delicious convenience food and frozen meals with organic and non-GMO ingredients, including gluten free, vegan & vegetarian options. The meat goes into sandwiches sold separately. Politics are not kashruth or halakhah. (3 days ago) The gelatin is certified Kosher and carries KD (Kosher Dairy) Certification from Rabbi Barnett Hasden. The shul also faced the difficulty of drawing enough members together to form a minyan for Friday Shabbat services. He then studied in the Hassidic tradition in Winnipeg before taking the position in Thunder Bay. Yoplait is a brand of yogurt. According to his obituary in the March 8, 1979 issue of the Chatham Courier newspaper (Columbia County NYS) Mr. Goldwasser was born in Poland son of Michael and Hannah Bella Goldwasser and died at the age of 87 (date of birth may be off by one year). Find Amy's CREAMY Candy Bar (Nougat Caramel & Dark Chocolate) by Amy's with no artificial colors, dyes, flavors, preservatives, or sweeteners. The Ner Tomid K, Staten Island, NY ", @EllenGreenberg, Welcome to Judaism.SE! @DoubleAA, I don't know what he certified, but if I had to guess, it would be the donuts (which are generally dairy). The gelatin is certified Kosher and carries KD (Kosher Dairy) Certification from Rabbi Barnett Hasden. What is left? Yoplait states that Rabbi Hasden certifies their Yogurt, and that it contains gelatin derived from Kosher beef. To most Orthodox rabbis, the answer is easy: never. I have had almost this very thing happen to me when I tell people that they can speak to a certain rav about what I hold with whom I am close. the honorable undeservedly shamed - all from mahloqeth. Each package contains one 1.35 oz bar Each 12 pack contains 12 - 1.35 oz packages. There are only a few products that are not certified at this time due to the presence of nonâkosher red wine vinegar. As noted in a Mishpacha magazine article a few months ago, that included a round table discussion by several kashrus experts, the most acceptable hechshers are those who communicate and share information on policies and procedures, and even problems they experience, with the rabbis of other hechshers as well as local rabbeim. https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/5435/any-information-about-rabbi-barnett-hasdens-ner-tamid-k-hechsher/38171#38171. Interview with Syd Halter, 20 July 2007, Sharon Gubbay Helfer. Rabbi Dov Hazdan. All the organizations in the world can make up their own standards and it won't change the Halacha. @DoubleAA, Gelatin isn't just made from the bones though. disgusting...Mahloqeth destroys bodily health, peace of mind, and (note that Yoplait only has a KD, not a certified symbol), 2021 Stack Exchange, Inc. user contributions under cc by-sa. I've been looking up an answer to that question for the past hour and realized everyone's got a variety of opinions. Later on, Chezzi Zion came up from Toronto to lead services for some time. Kol tuv. Those who keep quiet tend to be not recommended because rabbis have no basis for making a recommendation. 20 Does a Food Mashgiach have to Sacrifice his Life? If so, what? Additional possibly relevant information: I have only ever seen Ner Tamid K on restaurants which have already lost their previous hashgacha over some other issue. @Maimonist please hold the ad hominem out of this. Amyâs became certified in November of 2003. Rabbi Lazar Karalitzky, 25-15 Union Street, Apt. Meat products (non-pork) have been slaughtered under. Staten Island rabbi Dov Hazdan has been granting his own kosher certification to city Dunkin’ Donuts franchises that have served bacon, ham, and sausage, the trayf trifecta. And it was left at that. “The employees have to wear gloves. The shul’s president was Fred Ball, who arrived in Thunder Bay in 1978 and worked for the Ontario Health Laboratory as a microbiologist. 2011-09-01T16:09:20.197. 34 Is there a problem with Triangle K? (Patchogue, N.Y.) 1961-current, November 02, 1978, Page 30, Image 30, brought to you by Suffolk Cooperative Library ⦠2011-08-31T22:50:10.813. 100% Natural, in stock and ready to ship same day! Rabbis like recluse themselves for political reasons. 19 Why doesn't the OU put DE on food packages anymore? The bottom line is that it is pretty clear from a story like this that this is a certifier that is very lenient (as compared to what people are generally used to in other certifications). I strongly recommend that you ask your Rabbi questions like this. However, for a company the size of Yoplait, I wonder where they get all that Kosher product from. You can find opinions that make it meat, but you would have to look far and wide to find a certifier that wouldn't call it pareve. Currently, Dov is single. Rabbi Heisler is just as entitled to a halachik opinion as whatever rabbi certified those cars. The last full-time rabbi in Thunder Bay was Rabbi Daniel Siegel, who lived in the community with his wife Chana. Tag: hechsher-certification. No, I have not yet contacted him, but in all honesty I do not need to. OJA, Oral History #309, © 2009 Ontario Jewish Archives | UJA Federation. and was told yes each time. Previous to Dov's current city of Staten Island, NY, Dov Hazdan lived in New York NY. New Yoplait Greek and Yoplait Greek 100 are great options for those looking for a ⦠Kol tuv. Sorry, no source. Take from it what you wish. Many yogurt brands contain gelatin which is extracted from animal bones, cartilage, hooves, scales and other animal parts. Would you think of feeding your child animal hooves and hides? I suppose the question could be objectivized a bit by rephrasing as "What do authoritative rabbis or organizations say about the reliability of this hechsher?" The words which the Ramba"m wrote in a letter to his son, Rabbenu Avraham ring very true to this discussion: “Do not engage in mahloqeth which makes one’s nefesh That âbovineâ should spell it out for you. In 1967, Alex Devon, Saul Laskin and Rabbi Barnett Hasden prepared a brief articulating their opposition, which was submitted to the Committee on Religious Education in the Public Schools. He is a student of the late Rav Moshe Feinshtein z"l and he told me that if I wanted to know if he was a ne'eman then I could call Rav Reuven Feinshtein shlit"a and ask him. After Rabbi Siegel and his family moved to Saskatoon in 1974, many of his suggestions were adopted by Shaarey Shomayim, which has since followed an egalitarian service. In this Kay Kosher Supervision, 73-09 136th Street, Kew Garden Hills, NY 11367. Until you show me in. I think some specific issues rather than vague generalities would be more productive. (Regarding Rabbi Hasden's hashgacha, see this related question).I do not know whether either of those rabbis provide supervision with kashrus standards that are widely considered acceptable. I'd just recommend that you check with your Rabbi before acting on said information. Apparently, some Dannon yogurts (with K) and Yoplait yogurts (with KD) are under the supervision of Rabbi David Sheinkopf and Rabbi Barnett Hasden, respectively. In a letter of his impressions of Thunder Bay, he writes of his struggles with the expectation of the community that the rabbi be Orthodox, even though only the Siegels and the Halters were practicing Orthodox Jews among the congregation’s membership at that time. Known Cities: Staten Island NY, 10309, Brooklyn NY 11218, New York NY 10013 Possible Relatives: Bonny Lynn Hasden, Dale L Hasden, Leon C Hasden The Shaarey Shomayim executive in 1984 included three women: the vice-president Carol Morris, secretary Arlene Goldstein and treasurer Lynda Betcherman. However, in any event (especially according to the second) it would be Pareve. Rabbi Solomon Shapiro, Rabbinic Administrator; Rabbi ⦠But Iâm side eyeing it because I went down the rabbit hole of looking at the ingredients, and it lists beef-derived kosher gelatin in the ingredients, with a plain K D hechsher (certified by a Rabbi Barnett Hasden⦠@yydl, The question is actually not so bad as-is. manner, you will be sanctified even in the eyes of your enemies, who Amyâs has a new gluten free biscotti. June 6, 2002 | Clip Of House Session This clip, title, and description were not created by C-SPAN. Ask your own Rabbi if that approach is compatible with your general level of observance. 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